(SOHO) Dual WAN Load Balancing Gigabit VPN Router with RADIUS / ldap Support Recommendations



  • @Brains said:

    @scottalanmiller Isn't it both? We wouldn't want to buy a server license for it, so Linux would be my only option

    pf is the name of the FreeBSD firewall. pfSense is a package of FreeBSD and with a web GUI for managing pf.


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    @travisdh1 said:

    @Brains said:

    @scottalanmiller Isn't it both? We wouldn't want to buy a server license for it, so Linux would be my only option

    pfSense is BSD. VyOS is normally what's recommended if you want to do routing on pc hardware. I'm still getting to know how to work it myself.

    VyOS is great if you know Cisco IOS commands, sounds like they would rather manage things with a GUI though.



  • @scottalanmiller said:

    @Brains said:

    @Dashrender The IT Director does not want additional complexity (solid windows environment) and my staff is not Linux trained so there is a knowledge gap that would exist. Unfortunately I cant really do anything about that and I do not have time to be the main tech support whenever something breaks with the system. I have to work within the system I have. It looks like we are going to settle with the LRT224 due to cost concerns.... Thanks for your help though, I would much rather go with the Peplink ONE, but the $300 ($600 since we like to have a backup) price difference is enough to make a difference at this time.

    Especially as pfSense isn't Linux 🙂

    yeah yeah - it's not Linux.. but Scott know that's not what @Brains was really meaning, @Brains was really meaning anything non Windows or not whole solution in a box that's managed by a GUI - which you can tell Scott knows that by the little smilie.

    😛



  • @Brains said:

    @Dashrender The IT Director does not want additional complexity (solid windows environment) and my staff is not Linux trained so there is a knowledge gap that would exist. Unfortunately I cant really do anything about that and I do not have time to be the main tech support whenever something breaks with the system. I have to work within the system I have. It looks like we are going to settle with the LRT224 due to cost concerns.... Thanks for your help though, I would much rather go with the Peplink ONE, but the $300 ($600 since we like to have a backup) price difference is enough to make a difference at this time.

    I just don't understand why they are being so cheap on the hardware? Seriously, it's worth putting your company at risk, or have lower performance on your 200 Mb pipe over a few hundred lowesy dollars? If that's true, why not save some bucks and lower that internet pipe to 100 Mb or even lower?


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    @Dashrender said:

    @Brains said:

    @Dashrender The IT Director does not want additional complexity (solid windows environment) and my staff is not Linux trained so there is a knowledge gap that would exist. Unfortunately I cant really do anything about that and I do not have time to be the main tech support whenever something breaks with the system. I have to work within the system I have. It looks like we are going to settle with the LRT224 due to cost concerns.... Thanks for your help though, I would much rather go with the Peplink ONE, but the $300 ($600 since we like to have a backup) price difference is enough to make a difference at this time.

    I just don't understand why they are being so cheap on the hardware? Seriously, it's worth putting your company at risk, or have lower performance on your 200 Mb pipe over a few hundred lowesy dollars? If that's true, why not save some bucks and lower that internet pipe to 100 Mb or even lower?

    How are 30 users even using a 200mb connection, unless your letting everyone stream video?



  • Buy an ERL and pay me to set it up. You will come in under $1000 unless you cannot give clear requirements (which I highly expect to be the case).


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    @JaredBusch said:

    Buy an ERL and pay me to set it up. You will come in under $1000 unless you cannot give clear requirements (which I highly expect to be the case).

    Bahahahahaha.



  • @Brains said:

    It looks like we are going to settle with the LRT224 due to cost concerns....

    Waste of money. Had one, got rid of it because it wasn't powerful enough to handle what I wanted to do.

    Better off getting a Mikrotik if price is a concern. $70 for much more useful hardware.



  • @Dashrender said:

    @Brains said:

    @Dashrender The IT Director does not want additional complexity (solid windows environment) and my staff is not Linux trained so there is a knowledge gap that would exist. Unfortunately I cant really do anything about that and I do not have time to be the main tech support whenever something breaks with the system. I have to work within the system I have. It looks like we are going to settle with the LRT224 due to cost concerns.... Thanks for your help though, I would much rather go with the Peplink ONE, but the $300 ($600 since we like to have a backup) price difference is enough to make a difference at this time.

    I just don't understand why they are being so cheap on the hardware? Seriously, it's worth putting your company at risk, or have lower performance on your 200 Mb pipe over a few hundred lowesy dollars? If that's true, why not save some bucks and lower that internet pipe to 100 Mb or even lower?

    It's just bad timing and we are in the healthcare market and subject to Texas's Workers Compensation craziness, so its been a rough year or two for us. They are watching all the pennies. But GOOD NEWS EVERYONE! I was able to find a Peplink CORE ONE on amazon for $399!!! So I was able to make the argument and get them approved. Ill be ordering them today or tomorrow.

    I love this community btw, thanks a lot for the help. If anyone will be at Lone Star PHP in Texas this weekend, let me know. Ill be there and will buy you a beer.



  • @JaredBusch said:

    Buy an ERL and pay me to set it up. You will come in under $1000 unless you cannot give clear requirements (which I highly expect to be the case).

    Ive got plenty of clear requirements, I'm very good at my job (and there aren't too many requirements). The PepLink covers all of our requirements very nicely. I was looking at the EdgeRouter Lite (and I already upgraded us to Unifi WiFi recently), how are Ubiquiti's Routers? The APs have seemed to work pretty well but the range is a little lower than our previous ones. I still need to fine tune of course.



  • @Jason said:

    @travisdh1 said:

    @Brains said:

    @scottalanmiller Isn't it both? We wouldn't want to buy a server license for it, so Linux would be my only option

    pfSense is BSD. VyOS is normally what's recommended if you want to do routing on pc hardware. I'm still getting to know how to work it myself.

    VyOS is great if you know Cisco IOS commands, sounds like they would rather manage things with a GUI though.

    Its been a while since I used to program Catalyst routers for Orlando Telco, but they would rather follow the KISS method whenever and wherever possible. I have a lot of green staff.



  • @Dashrender said:

    @Brains said:

    @Dashrender The IT Director does not want additional complexity (solid windows environment) and my staff is not Linux trained so there is a knowledge gap that would exist. Unfortunately I cant really do anything about that and I do not have time to be the main tech support whenever something breaks with the system. I have to work within the system I have. It looks like we are going to settle with the LRT224 due to cost concerns.... Thanks for your help though, I would much rather go with the Peplink ONE, but the $300 ($600 since we like to have a backup) price difference is enough to make a difference at this time.

    I just don't understand why they are being so cheap on the hardware? Seriously, it's worth putting your company at risk, or have lower performance on your 200 Mb pipe over a few hundred lowesy dollars? If that's true, why not save some bucks and lower that internet pipe to 100 Mb or even lower?

    preaching to the choir brother. Preaching to the choir.



  • @Jason said:

    @Dashrender said:

    @Brains said:

    @Dashrender The IT Director does not want additional complexity (solid windows environment) and my staff is not Linux trained so there is a knowledge gap that would exist. Unfortunately I cant really do anything about that and I do not have time to be the main tech support whenever something breaks with the system. I have to work within the system I have. It looks like we are going to settle with the LRT224 due to cost concerns.... Thanks for your help though, I would much rather go with the Peplink ONE, but the $300 ($600 since we like to have a backup) price difference is enough to make a difference at this time.

    I just don't understand why they are being so cheap on the hardware? Seriously, it's worth putting your company at risk, or have lower performance on your 200 Mb pipe over a few hundred lowesy dollars? If that's true, why not save some bucks and lower that internet pipe to 100 Mb or even lower?

    How are 30 users even using a 200mb connection, unless your letting everyone stream video?

    30 users? We really only need the pipe for offsite backups/restores and we got it for a nominal increase in our existing pricing. The main point was the tripling of our upload speed. But yea we don't restrict any music/movie/video streams at all. Not until someone gets fired for watching videos all day instead of doing their job.



  • @Brains said:

    It's just bad timing and we are in the healthcare market and subject to Texas's Workers Compensation craziness, so its been a rough year or two for us.

    Then you best not be using PPTP. Compliance audits will come down on you hard.

    If anyone will be at Lone Star PHP in Texas this weekend, let me know. Ill be there and will buy you a beer.

    I thought you were talking about Big Texas Beer Fest, which was last weekend.



  • @PSX_Defector said:

    @Brains said:

    It's just bad timing and we are in the healthcare market and subject to Texas's Workers Compensation craziness, so its been a rough year or two for us.

    Then you best not be using PPTP. Compliance audits will come down on you hard.

    If anyone will be at Lone Star PHP in Texas this weekend, let me know. Ill be there and will buy you a beer.

    I thought you were talking about Big Texas Beer Fest, which was last weekend.

    I was planning on trying to use L2TP and darn for missing the Beer Fest. That's my kind of place! Well Whiskey Fest would be MORE my kinda place haha.

    I also wanted to ask you about this as well:
    3 Year Warranty & InControl 2 for Balance One/Balance One Core

    I really doubt the cloud management would be useful for us since we only have 2 local devices (one active at a time). We will get free firmware updates AFAIK, so I don't really know why that is mentioned. Is there any reason we should get this package? 25% price increase for 2 additional years of warranty doesn't seem worth it to me.