Veeam backup VmWare & Linux



  • We are considering Veeam backup for our new private cloud, which is on VMWare and would like to understand few things before we decide.

    Previously we only had Linux VMs (LAMP) and on the new setup we will also be having few SP server farms (both dev & for some clients). When we only had Linux, the backup was done using backuppc for file level and cPanel backup for account level restoration.

    Now that we are moving with both Windows & Linux, and especially will be working on SP projects, thought Veeam would be an ideal choice, as i've read about the options of granular restoration of SP, AD, MSSQL etc.

    Just wondering how does it handles Linux servers/VMs. Is there a file level restoration available for Linux too. Didn't get much info from my search. For mysql one of the post i saw was about doing it via mysqldump. Is this the case. Please share your suggestions.



  • Saw this page https://helpcenter.veeam.com/evaluation/backup/hyperv/en/flr_linux.html

    This looks like the restoration happens on a different location and we need to copy that to the source linux server manually!



  • If it's like the Windows side, you can restore to the same Linux box, just a different folder. But I have no idea how that works with restore things at a DB level.



  • I am not very sure if Veeam could be an option for LAMP backup, a VM level backup could be an option and the SP farm. Wondering if i should stick to backuppc/cpanel backup for the linux backup too



  • Use Veeam for all. You can run script to dump MySQL database before backup runs. Regardless of what you choose, file level restore with most Linux setups don't make much sense, unless your VM is really huge. Restoring entire VM takes just a few minutes, digging through files to do individual restores can easily take much more time.



  • @marcinozga said:

    Use Veeam for all. You can run script to dump MySQL database before backup runs. Regardless of what you choose, file level restore with most Linux setups don't make much sense, unless your VM is really huge. Restoring entire VM takes just a few minutes, digging through files to do individual restores can easily take much more time.

    It's a pain in those cases where you can't do a full restore in place and would need to restore to another location, find the file and copy it back. Can certainly do that if the VM isn't enormous, but if it is a 30TB file server, might suck a bit for a 2MB file.



  • @scottalanmiller are you saying that Veeam doesn't have file level restore for Linux like it does for Windows?



  • @Dashrender said:

    @scottalanmiller are you saying that Veeam doesn't have file level restore for Linux like it does for Windows?

    I don't know if it does and was not meaning to comment on if it did or not, only that the described "it doesn't matter" most definitely does matter for a lot of use cases.



  • @scottalanmiller said:

    @Dashrender said:

    @scottalanmiller are you saying that Veeam doesn't have file level restore for Linux like it does for Windows?

    I don't know if it does and was not meaning to comment on if it did or not, only that the described "it doesn't matter" most definitely does matter for a lot of use cases.

    aww - yeah i agree - it definitely does matter.



  • @Dashrender said:

    @scottalanmiller said:

    @Dashrender said:

    @scottalanmiller are you saying that Veeam doesn't have file level restore for Linux like it does for Windows?

    I don't know if it does and was not meaning to comment on if it did or not, only that the described "it doesn't matter" most definitely does matter for a lot of use cases.

    aww - yeah i agree - it definitely does matter.

    With Hyper-V you can do a file level restore (FLR) on any non windows OS, but it has to mount the backup into a FLR helper appliance that veaam will create on one of the hosts. Then you get to select the file(s) and choose to restore with overwrite or keep, like normal.

    I assume the process is similar for VMWare.

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  • With a Windows guest, you can restore directly from the backup, without needing to mount an FLR appliance.



  • When you close the wizard, it disposes of the appliance.

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  • @JaredBusch said:

    With a Windows guest, you can restore directly from the backup, without needing to mount an FLR appliance.

    Is this with Hyper-V, VMware hypervisors or both?



  • When it comes to a web server where it is used as a shared server option, restoring the whole VM back to a time just for one sites file wouldn't be that useful. What I am thinking is enabling Veeam for VM backup and since our servers have cPanel schedule a daily cPanel backup to a storage. So that if something only affects an account, i can simply restore that via cpanel



  • @wrx7m said:

    @JaredBusch said:

    With a Windows guest, you can restore directly from the backup, without needing to mount an FLR appliance.

    Is this with Hyper-V, VMware hypervisors or both?

    For windows guests? it is both. I have never tried a file level restore of a linux VM on VMWare. I no longer have any VMWare hosts to test it on either.



  • You can do file-level restores with Veeam for VMs with Linux guests running on VMWare. Veeam will mount a FLR appliance to one of your hosts and give you the ability to select the files to restore.



  • @NetworkNerd said:

    You can do file-level restores with Veeam for VMs with Linux guests running on VMWare. Veeam will mount a FLR appliance to one of your hosts and give you the ability to select the files to restore.

    So exactly the same as with Hyper-V as I would expect, just did not know for certain.



  • I am currently working on the storage planning for Veeam and found this site http://rps.dewin.me/