online file server and backup



  • I got a query from a friend who wants to move out from godaddy email to either Google apps or O365. Plus he wants to have centralized file sharing, backup of users files and access of files from anywhere.

    I was thinking about O365 for them but don't think individual one drive account is perfect for their file sharing need, data is around 1TB. Thinking of getting them basic O365 which will get them email and one drive for personal files and box.com for their centralized file sharing, even though I don't consider box.com as a backup solution, they can store all files to box and we could also have veam endpoint backup also saved to the box sync location. Suggestions please.



  • @Ambarishrh said:

    I got a query from a client who wants to move out from godaddy email to either Google apps or O365. Plus he wants to have centralized file sharing, backup of users files and access of files from anywhere.

    I was thinking about O365 for them but don't think individual one drive account is perfect for their file sharing need, data is around 1TB. Thinking of getting them basic O365 which will get them email and one drive for personal files and box.com for their centralized file sharing, even though I don't consider box.com as a backup solution, they can store all files to box and we could also have veam endpoint backup also saved to the box sync location. Suggestions please.

    GoDaddy is Office365 now. Are they still on a legacy GoDaddy service or something?



  • GoDaddy is all O365? I had the feeling that they were doing both their old, low end service and O365 additionally. Never looked into it though.



  • Not having used it, what does Box offer in terms of team file sharing that the OneDrive for Business does not?



  • @scottalanmiller said:

    GoDaddy is all O365? I had the feeling that they were doing both their old, low end service and O365 additionally. Never looked into it though.

    I have not went through all the menus, but at one point last year I looked into some options for a client and that was all I seen listed as available.



  • Well it would make sense, they were not making money on the old system and it did not have a good reputation. I would not be surprised if they phased it out for new accounts.



  • @scottalanmiller said:

    Well it would make sense, they were not making money on the old system and it did not have a good reputation. I would not be surprised if they phased it out for new accounts.

    Need to check if existing accounts has an option to migrate to O365.

    Regarding the difference between ODFB and box.com the main difference would be the unlimited storage, as the client already has 1TB storage, it would be best to have such option. Plus box has external sharing option with features like password protect, set file expiry, reporting on the files, sharing, permissions etc. Im not sure if these are available on O365 as good as box. Plus i am not very sure if the ODFB sync issues are still there. And box supports quite a lot of other apps which can be easily integrated with this. https://app.box.com/services/



  • @Ambarishrh said:

    @scottalanmiller said:

    Well it would make sense, they were not making money on the old system and it did not have a good reputation. I would not be surprised if they phased it out for new accounts.

    Need to check if existing accounts has an option to migrate to O365.

    Regarding the difference between ODFB and box.com the main difference would be the unlimited storage, as the client already has 1TB storage, it would be best to have such option. Plus box has external sharing option with features like password protect, set file expiry, reporting on the files, sharing, permissions etc. Im not sure if these are available on O365 as good as box. Plus i am not very sure if the ODFB sync issues are still there. And box supports quite a lot of other apps which can be easily integrated with this. https://app.box.com/services/

    In my recent experience, ODfB Sync issues almost always relate around breaking the limits. Either size or file count.



  • box.com's individual file size is 5 GB and i guess with ODFB its still 2GB?



  • Oh, Box is unlimited storage? That is indeed a big deal.



  • @scottalanmiller said:

    Oh, Box is unlimited storage? That is indeed a big deal.

    Yes, but it costs $17/mo/user. Still i think this is a good deal, and as far as my testing goes, there are no sync issues even when handling large files. In our company we have box enterprise, and is ready to roll out to all agencies. Once its up and running all agencies will move all of their local/network storage to box and not to worry about hardware storage/renewal and maintenance!

    So my question was, does it makes sense to go with box for this guy even though he will have O365. As mentioned earlier, I will let the OD be used as a public drive for each user to store whatever they want but box becomes their primary file sharing tool.



  • Oh, well that does offset it a bit. Also consider ownCloud, you can host your own, too. You can do 1TB on Vultr for super cheap. But 1TB is the limit.



  • I thought about Owncloud, but they will not be interested in an ongoing maintenance contract as of now, they are just 6 members team. So thought of setting it up for them and main management would be users/shares/permission which would be pretty easy. If they agree for a contract, I would, without thinking twice install owncloud and set it up for them 🙂



  • @Ambarishrh said:

    I thought about Owncloud, but they will not be interested in an ongoing maintenance contract as of now, they are just 6 members team.

    But ODfB or Box are ongoing maintenance contracts, how does ownCloud get rules out but not the others?



  • For box/ODFB once the account is set, they get support+access even though they pay the monthly fee and that too only based on number of users. If i need to give own cloud for them, i need to consider my time to setup and maintain this ongoing and they need to pay may be more than what they will pay for those online services. At least that's what i think. For me to keep the unlimited, managed owncloud for more than 1TB, need to find a good hosting provider, see if the cost of that+the maintenance fee for me to manage this services, i guess if they are not willing to sign a retainer contract, its not worth spending that time.



  • @Ambarishrh said:

    For box/ODFB once the account is set, they get support+access even though they pay the monthly fee and that too only based on number of users. If i need to give own cloud for them, i need to consider my time to setup and maintain this ongoing and they need to pay may be more than what they will pay for those online services. At least that's what i think. For me to keep the unlimited, managed owncloud for more than 1TB, need to find a good hosting provider, see if the cost of that+the maintenance fee for me to manage this services, i guess if they are not willing to sign a retainer contract, its not worth spending that time.

    Good reasoning. You can look here for a list of ownCloud providers to make things more comparable.

    https://owncloud.org/providers/



  • Does SharePoint not provide what they need? It comes with O365



  • @Dashrender said:

    Does SharePoint not provide what they need? It comes with O365

    SP does not handle 1TB of data very well.



  • Ohoh@scottalanmiller said:

    @Dashrender said:

    Does SharePoint not provide what they need? It comes with O365

    SP does not handle 1TB of data very well.

    Oh, drag.



  • I've used egnyte in the past for situations like that, don't remember pricing or limits though