• RE: Cloud Models - CompTIA A+ 220-1001 Prof Messer

    @brianwinkelmann said in Cloud Models - CompTIA A+ 220-1001 Prof Messer:

    Very interesting, so google drive or dropbox are that kind of services right? Or am I confused?

    No, they are not. They are "hosted storage", but there is nothing particularly "cloud" about them. Everyone uses the term cloud to sell hosted storage because ... well because people are confused about cloud. So yes, everyone considers that to be cloud, but it isn't in any actual way.

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  • RE: What Are You Doing Right Now

    @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

    If you have all this stuff - it's because management at your company made the choice to have it - they choose to continue to use Windows.

    Yup, I have to say, as a company owner, every other business owner / CEO / CIO out there has to decide how they perceive their company, where they spend their money, if they are going to use Windows. When it's our own money, we don't use Windows. No one has to use Windows, it's always a choice. Sometimes it's a good one, sometimes it's a bad one, but it's always a choice and there is no such thing as being stuck with it. As IT pros, yes, we are often stuck working for companies that have someone in charge of IT that demands it. So we get stuck. But any business running Windows does so exclusively because whoever is in charge chose it and continues to choose it.

    We feel that we can't choose it and respect ourselves and our staff. It's full of bloat, it's just a freaking joke. Microsoft clearly doesn't think of their customers as businesses, why should we fight that?

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  • RE: What Are You Doing Right Now

    @brandon220 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

    @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

    Now that said - I'm wondering how much of that crap comes back when you go from a decrapified 1903 to 1909? or 2004? those two "upgrades" are not really upgrades, more like service packs, and generally take 10 or less to install, unlike past ones that took hours.

    I installed the 2004 update 3 times this morning and it all came back.

    Yes, Windows itself is bloatware now. And we classify Teams as malware (it meets every definition I've ever seen). The only solution there is moving away from a bloatware/malware platform. Starting with Windows, if you don't like the Windows ecosystem, will never make for a happy result.

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  • RE: What Are You Doing Right Now

    @brandon220 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

    @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

    I hear ya - but that has nothing to do with the hardware manufacturer (unless you're buying MS hardware) and everything to do with Microsoft - so not sure how that relates to how you want to buy a system with no OS?

    I'm referring to the reasons why I want to be rid of Windows. I just hate having to pay for MS license if it is not going to be used. That is all.

    Dash's point, which is quite valid, is that if you are getting the Home version, often you are being "paid" to have it installed, rather than the other way around.

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  • RE: Non-IT News Thread

    @DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

    @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

    Trump stokes 'birther' conspiracy theory about Kamala Harris

    President Donald Trump says he has "heard" Democratic candidate Kamala Harris "doesn't qualify" to serve as US vice-president, amplifying a fringe legal theory critics decry as racist.
    She was born in the US to a Jamaican father and Indian mother in Oakland, California, on 20 October 1964. As such, she is eligible to serve as president or vice-president. For years, Mr Trump promoted a false "birther" theory that ex-President Barack Obama was not born in the US. Ms Harris, a California senator, was named on Tuesday as the first woman of colour to serve as running mate on a main-party US presidential ticket. She is deputy to Democratic White House candidate Joe Biden, who will challenge Mr Trump, a Republican, in November's general election.

    /sarcasm
    I think Donald Trump is actually an illegal Britain, his mother came here pregnant and just dropped him out on the side walk. Check his birth certificate!

    He looks more like someone that fell out of the sky over New Mexico, if you catch my drift.

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  • RE: What Are You Doing Right Now

    @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

    @brandon220 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

    to start with a clean slate. Sure, a laptop with W10 Home would work to wipe but regardless you are still paying for a MS

    Actually the costs difference for No OS versus Windows OS could huge, and cost you money.
    Dell could, for example, pay MS $30 for Home edition, and then get paid $50 to put all that junkware on there.

    You remove the OS and suddenly the computer could cost you $20 more. I'm saying could.. I have no clue what those people pay OEMs to install junkware.

    Yeah, it's potentially a negative cost.

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  • RE: What Are You Doing Right Now

    @brandon220 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

    @scottalanmiller Yes, I would expect the unit to be 100% functioning and all the hardware verified. I can buy a server with no disks, no OS, etc, and I am sure they still tested the hardware before shipping. If I buy a Server from HPE or Dell with no disks, they can't ship it to me with FreeDOS pre-installed.

    Right, but servers aren't for consumers. They go to IT. Consumers getting a laptop with no OS will be confused and make the whole thing cost more. So you end up paying more, rather than less. So you'd literally have to pay, for not having an OS.

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  • RE: What Are You Doing Right Now

    @brandon220 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

    @scottalanmiller True, but if I buy a Dell laptop with W10 Home edition, and I install Fedora Workstation on it, completely wiping away Windows - There is no guarantee of Fedora working on it just because Windows 10 did. I know that going in, that it may not work. That is a risk I the consumer would have to make.

    That's a totally different problem than I'm mentioning, though. I'm talking about literally testing that specific piece of hardware. "Does the harddrive spin, is the RAM good, etc." That's why they always install "something" so that they can prove that it fires up and functions.

    That's why if you choose "NO OS" from HPE, you still get FreeDOS.

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  • RE: What Are You Doing Right Now

    @brandon220 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

    I could buy a System76 with PopOS but I'd rather just be able to start with a clean slate.

    I guarantee that they will do that. They offer OS choice as it is. Just tell them you want one blank.

    BUT, the reason that no one sells blank is because it verifies the hardware. If you have no OS, your hardware can't have been tested. So you don't actually want that. Installing over an OS takes no more effort than starting blank, so shouldn't matter.

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  • RE: Why Do Vendors Use MAP Pricing?

    @JaredBusch said in Why Do Vendors Use MAP Pricing?:

    @Dashrender it also depends on the product.

    I buy most things on the sale price, because it is not urgent. I buy clothes though, as needed, because I hate buying clothes and only buy when shit is worn through.
    On the other hand, my wife buys clothes on the sales, planning ahead for seasons and when thing wear out.

    And I only buy in thrift shops, where there aren't sales.

    posted in IT Discussion